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[11:51:07 PM] andrée [ her: you know what
[11:53:41 PM] andrée [ her: i dont know what caused it and why, but
ever since i came back from your place, til i left you,
my love for you grew lesser and lesser. i cant explain
it. maybe because you once talked about "maybe we won't
be made for each other later on", maybe it got me
thinking. maybe i realized that living in french for 18
years was going to be twisted around to become english,
a completely new beginning, wasnt appealing to me. after
a while, i started considering every little detail.
maybe thats why i have about no "love" left for you. and
no "love" doesnt mean "i dont want to talk to you
anymore" it means no more things couples do. its that
simple. is that clearer to you? or do you need more?
[11:55:15 PM] G-Gnome: its not like i was out to convert you and turn
you to some english person... as evil as that is i
guess..
[11:55:23 PM] G-Gnome: i loved you for who you were
[11:55:33 PM] G-Gnome: i guess i cant understand why you couldnt do
the same..
[11:55:47 PM] andrée [ her: i dont want my kids to be english, i dont
want to live unilingual english
[11:56:20 PM] andrée [ her: you dont understand this because you're
not part of the french minority graydon
[11:57:52 PM] G-Gnome: alright..
[11:58:19 PM] andrée [ her: how would you like it if the ontario govt.
tomorrow decided that all english schools would be
closed down, and that ontario would become unilingual
french? what would you do?
[11:59:16 PM] G-Gnome: id laugh probably
[11:59:28 PM] andrée [ her: because..?
[12:00:34 AM] G-Gnome: ill probably offend you so i wont bother
[12:00:41 AM] andrée [ her: well you know what graydon
[12:00:44 AM] andrée [ her: its happened to us
[12:00:51 AM] andrée [ her: in like the 70s
[12:01:33 AM] andrée [ her: unilingual french in ontario were forced
to go to school in english, if there was ONE single
english kid in the class of 30, the class would be
taught in english, even if only that english kid
understood
[12:02:19 AM] andrée [ her: my mom recalls she was in class once, and
raised her hand to ask something. the teacher told her
it would be a dumb french question, and told her to put
her hand down
[12:02:46 AM] andrée [ her: you just dont care about french do you
[12:02:50 AM] G-Gnome: and so you hold this against me?
[12:02:56 AM] G-Gnome: no i never said i didnt..
[12:03:12 AM] G-Gnome: its different for me but it was something i was
willing to accept
[12:03:24 AM] G-Gnome: or else i wouldnt have done what i did with
you
[12:03:30 AM] andrée [ her: im not holding anything against you
graydon. im telling you what you dont know and dont
realize. you dont realize how horrible it is to be hated
because youre french.
[12:04:00 AM] G-Gnome: well i cant say i know, but i do know they dont
have a good rep
[12:04:37 AM] andrée [ her: dont put everyone in the same basket
[12:06:12 AM] G-Gnome: I dont
[12:06:18 AM] andrée [ her: but i do know they dont have a good rep
[12:06:21 AM] G-Gnome: i know lots of french pepole..
[12:06:33 AM] andrée [ her: well whats so wrong with us french
[12:06:56 AM] G-Gnome: i do know they dont have a good rep from what
everybody else says..
[12:07:11 AM] andrée [ her: well think for yourself, stop listening to
everyone else
[12:07:14 AM] G-Gnome: and just from it seems like an overall
perspective
[12:07:24 AM] G-Gnome: im not saying my opinion is based on that at
all..
[12:07:48 AM] G-Gnome: stop thinking that im just like every other
english person
[12:07:51 AM] G-Gnome: or whtaever
[12:07:57 AM] G-Gnome: i already told you..
[12:08:00 AM] andrée [ her: well what is it
[12:08:20 AM] G-Gnome: what is what
[12:08:39 AM] andrée [ her: what is it that makes you think that
french people have a bad reputation
[12:08:51 AM] andrée [ her: what do you know that makes french people
bad
[12:09:06 AM] andrée [ her: what would be so funny about being stuck
in a french province tomorrow morning?
[12:10:08 AM] G-Gnome: i dont find it funny about teh fact that
everybody would be french, what i find funny is why they
would do that...
[12:10:19 AM] andrée [ her: well why would the do that to us then?
[12:10:23 AM] andrée [ her: they*
[12:10:31 AM] G-Gnome: and its not about because i dotn like french
people
[12:10:35 AM] andrée [ her: whats so okay with picking on the french?
[12:10:50 AM] G-Gnome: i dont know, im not the answer book
[12:10:55 AM] G-Gnome: why are you taking all this out on me
[12:11:33 AM] andrée [ her: tell me graydon, why would it be funny
"why would they do that to us english?", and why is it
okay that they do it to us french? whats different?
[12:13:35 AM] G-Gnome: I think it is safe to say that ontario is the
backbone of canada... i also think it is safe to say
that if everything went french all of a sudden,
everythign would fall apart, how would trade with the US
happen, how owuld the other provinces know what we were
doing, how would the world handle something like that,
thats why i find it funny
[12:14:08 AM] G-Gnome: there isnt enough french around the rest of
canada and US that would keep everythign teh same state
they are now
[12:14:18 AM] andrée [ her: so you are saying that french isnt that
important.
[12:14:25 AM] G-Gnome: im not saying that at all
[12:14:49 AM] G-Gnome: im saying from a political perspective, it
would probably not help anything
[12:14:55 AM] andrée [ her: lol..
[12:16:06 AM] G-Gnome: i told you it would probably offend you
[12:16:10 AM] G-Gnome: hate me all you want
[12:16:14 AM] andrée [ her: im not hating you.
[12:16:40 AM] G-Gnome: your really putting me under the light here
trying to make me sound like i hate french people..
[12:16:55 AM] andrée [ her: im not going to push it anymore.
[12:16:59 AM] G-Gnome: all im telling you is that it wouldny be wise
if tomorrow all of ontario became french

bon ben moi, je suis vraiment pas impressed. je suis officiellement offusquée et insultée au max.

Andrée as raison qu'elle puis G ne vivent pas nécessairement la même réalité et ça ça peut certainement jouer un grand rôle dans l'incompatibilité d'un couple. Et G a probablement de la misère à comprendre comment la vie est différente pour Andrée parce qu'il n'a pas de référence comme ça dans sa vie. Cependant, je ne vois pas ce que G a dis d'insultant ou d'offusquant. Il est évident pour moi pourquoi ça serait genre "drôle" que le gouvernement décide de créer de l'Ontario une province unilingue française. (Malgré que ce ne serait pas pour des raisons politiques, comme il le suggère, mais il a raison que tu l'as mit "sur le spot" -puis ça ce n'est pas une bonne façon de recevoir des réponses véritables) Ça serait drôle qu'un gouvernement composé majoritairement d'anglophones, dans une province majoritaire anglophone, déciderait de faire la province unilingue... en FRANÇAIS. Ça n'a juste pas de sens. Surtout si tu considères que SI le gouvernement est assez ignorant de penser que ça serait avantageux pour la province d'adopter une unilinguisme, comment pourrait-il être si cultivé qu'il veule choisir une langue minoritaire pour être cette "unique langue".
En tout cas, juste pour dire que je crois que tu te fais une montagne d'un rien. Tu as mis de l'effort à former de l'insulte de ses paroles tandis que tout ce qu'il voulait faire c'est d'éviter d'être insensible.

Je pense que G as possiblement des préjugées contre les francophones, ça se manifeste un peu dans ce qu'il dit. C'est vrai que Andrée l'a pas mal mit sur le spot mais je vois qu'il a certainement un manque d'ouverture de la part de G. Avec un peu plus de sens il aurait pu s'en sortir beaucoup mieux.

tk, en faisant la mise en scène de "demain, l'ontario est francophone seulement", c'était pas pour mettre une mise en scène de maintenant, c'était pour faire un lien à ce que les anglophones nous on fait avec le règlement XVII, parce que G ne comprend évidemment pas comment la francophonie c'est important pour moi (ou nous).

merci pour les commentaires.

Sire_Denys a écrit:

En tout cas, juste pour dire que je crois que tu te fais une montagne d'un rien. Tu as mis de l'effort à former de l'insulte de ses paroles tandis que tout ce qu'il voulait faire c'est d'éviter d'être insensible.

c'Est un peu ce que je pensais.


je crois que je ne serais pas capable d'avoir une relation comme ca avec une anglophone. Si j'étais avec une fille qui parle toujours en anglais, mais qui est francophone, je serais plus capable a cause de, ben, c'Est dur à expliquer.

Sa fait un bout de temps que je pense quoi dire, mais je crois que vais essayer

je m'en fout de la langue de ma/mon partenaire, parce que la langue, quoi qu'elle peut former la personallitée de quelqu'un, ne la dicte pas nécéssairement.

et de plus, je ne veux pas que mes enfants soient anglophones parce que ce ne serais pas naturel pour moi, je connais plein de couples ou les enfants soient francophones et il y a un parent anglophone. C'est une question de respect, et un choix qui doit etre fait entre partenaires